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Dave Gaebler's avatar

I really enjoyed this one!

One of my hobbyhorses is how updating hymns to eliminate thee/thou/thy inevitably changes meaning as well as style. A striking example: there's a verse in "O Word of God Incarnate" that in the original reads

In thee all fullness dwelleth, all grace and pow'r divine

The glory that excelleth, O Son of God, is thine.

In the newer Trinity hymnal, it's been changed to

In you all fullness dwelling, all grace and pow'r outpours

The glory all excelling, O Son of God, is yours.

Now, the new version doesn't say anything bad, but...taking the word "divine" out vitiates the adoration in the original. (Not to mention that it also obscures the clear reference to Colossians 1:19 and 2:9.) I sympathize with whoever had the job of rewriting those hymns, though--I certainly couldn't have done any better!

I also didn't know that thy/thine was based on a next consonant/next vowel. I wonder whether my/mine also used to be that way? It seems that nowadays "mine" is only a predicate adjective and otherwise one uses "my". I just always assumed that was the case with thy/thine as well, but could've noticed otherwise by looking at hymns...e.g. in "Jesus, What a Friend for Sinners" with the line "By thine own eternal Spirit, rule in all our hearts alone; by thine all sufficient merit, raise us to thy glorious throne."

Thanks for a great issue!

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Laura Wynia's avatar

This was a fun post! I love the old hymns, but never quite understood how the archaic pronouns worked. Thank you for filling me in!

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